Things that I cannot accomplish in Mac BaseCamp

I guess I am but when I google "Gramin recalculation off", google doesn't get the point either. I just think that if you could define the functionally you need in a request that did not require scraping BaseCamp and porting MapSourse, your chances of seeing the feature would be much greater. Just remember for ever user defining routes with 25 shaping points, there is 1000 time more buying GPSs to geocache, hunt, fish, explore the outdoors or navigate the roads via the interstate.

You really don't understand do you? When we bought our GPS units, it was with the understanding that the full feature set of the GPSr would be supported, and in MapSource, to a great extent, it is. Is it too much to ask that the same features be available in a different OS?

Believe it or not, nothing is free. We've paid for the software, software upgrades, and future programming in the price of hardware and map updates. You're obviously a new user or you would remember not too long ago, that maps were not locked and could be installed on as many units as required with no additional cost. Interestingly, in those days, Garmin's profitability was never questioned. Those of us who have followed the update path have paid more and more with every new marketing turn by Garmin. That's our choice. We keep spending. We'll also keep demanding a level of product quality and service that we feel is equivalent to our investment.

I have to ask though, what is it about our requests that bothers you? Do you have a vested interest in the process? Your protestations seem to be rooted in nothing more than an attempt to slow or stop the evolution of the product. Doesn't a fuller feature set benefit everyone in the long run? Is this discussion somehow inconvenient to you, or are you just a Zebco shareholder?

I guess I am but when I google "Gramin recalculation off", google doesn't get the point either. I just think that if you could define the functionally you need in a request that did not require scraping BaseCamp and porting MapSourse, your chances of seeing the feature would be much greater. Just remember for ever user defining routes with 25 shaping points, there is 1000 time more buying GPSs to geocache, hunt, fish, explore the outdoors or navigate the roads via the interstate.

Maybe you should try spelling Garmin correctly, Google requires correct spelling most of the time.

It does not require porting MapSource. It is merely something in the XML that is generated by MapSource, compared to the XML that is generated by BaseCamp and RoadTrip.

Would there be a way to add a "Total" summary view for a number of routes in one folder that make up a whole trip. Right now I have to select each route and add all the distance and times etc.

Would be nice to have a summary footer that shows the info of whatever is selected without having to go into the route "Info" area. You can replace the "1 route selected in folder" text with summary info instead. I know how many routes I have selected.

Sounds like an excellent ideal to me. Sure there is a way and I bet it is a feature Garmin will be eager to add. The only question is how will it rank on the to do list which determines when it gets coded. What about distances showing after each route in the list, If you selected multiple routes and double clicked, the route window would contain the summary and total distance.

Would there be a way to add a "Total" summary view for a number of routes in one folder that make up a whole trip. Right now I have to select each route and add all the distance and times etc.

Would be nice to have a summary footer that shows the info of whatever is selected without having to go into the route "Info" area. You can replace the "1 route selected in folder" text with summary info instead. I know how many routes I have selected.

I like it. We'll see what we can do.

By the end of 2006, Garmin intends to have made all its popular hardware and software applications Mac OS X compatible. This includes the ability to load MapSource map data to Garmin units via a Mac, as well as waypoint and trip planning applications. Additionally, the Garmin nRoute application will allow Powerbook and iBook users to turn their laptop into a powerful street navigation tool with Garmin’s GPS 10 or GPS 18 sensors.

You can read the rest of this press release from January of 2006HERE

We are getting Impatient.

Garmin has told us they intend to bring full support to the Macintosh.

If I had known this process would have taken this long I most likely would have bought something else. I figured I could manage with the PC for a year ( I bought my Zumo 550 in Late Spring of 2007 [OOps] ). At that point I had a belief in the press release.

One more thought, most Mac users don't want to add a 100 shaping points to a route. Most Mac users just want BaseCamp to know the route they prefer. I would think additional routing options and maybe interstate avoidance could create routes that required less shaping. I would think less shaping points would be better for everyone, even you professional routers.

Additional routing preferences would be a welcome addition.


a way to avoid or prefer any classification of road.

The Map Data has some kind of classification for every road.
How many classes are included in that data?

It could get pretty granular and maybe overcomplicated, but as an advanced feature it would be very desirable.

Edit: Yep, shaping points are annoying to use. But I understand a routing algorithm that would satisfy everyone, especially hikers and off road motorsport enthusiasts just is not possible. So shaping points are a method to do things that the routing algorithm cannot do.

Invisible shaping points are supported

HERE:

GeeZ, I really do wish some more of these hidden functions were documented somewhere.

Edit: Yep, shaping points are annoying to use. But I understand a routing algorithm that would satisfy everyone, especially hikers and off road motorsport enthusiasts just is not possible. So shaping points are a method to do things that the routing algorithm cannot do.

I am amazed routing works as well as it does when you consider all the variable but sometime in the future, I bet there will be additional options in the routing preference that will eliminate the need for most shaping points. For example, avoid interstates is popular with many RV's and bikers and would probable eliminate the need for many shaping points when creating biking routes for the backroads.

Storage space has increased exponentially, faster processors, additional memory, better maps makes things possible that were not possible when the devolvement of MapSource started. In the immediately future Garmin must use BaseCamp to catch up with the iPod crowed that is GeoCaching, GeoTagging, and prefer the interstate because they are always in a hurry.

Age wise I am there but I have not started avoiding interstates, however I think interstates to be added to the avoidance list. If the coding time is not excessive, I think interstates avoidance would be a worth while addition.

I am amazed routing works as well as it does when you consider all the variable but sometime in the future, I bet there will be additional options in the routing preference that will eliminate the need for most shaping points. For example, avoid interstates is popular with many RV's and bikers and would probable eliminate the need for many shaping points when creating biking routes for the backroads.

This quite simply cannot be allowed. A DualSport ride could possibly encompass everything from short Interstate sections to logging and FS roads and include most types in between. We need fully supported via points and more powerful avoidances. For my uses the routing algorithm is secondary to the manipulation tools. Point to point, I just use the GPS, no BaseCamp needed.

Storage space has increased exponentially, faster processors, additional memory, better maps makes things possible that were not possible when the devolvement of MapSource started.

Then why are we still waiting for the features in such a legacy/limited program? The nBooks that are becoming more popular with the travel crowd are more concerned with battery life. Performance wise they're not able to handle the leading edge of technology. Some of us, believe it or not, don't replace a computer just to keep up with programming, we actually keep them to the end of their mechanical life cycle.

In the immediately future Garmin must use BaseCamp to catch up with the iPod crowed that is GeoCaching, GeoTagging, and prefer the interstate because they are always in a hurry.

So in order to satisfy a point to point market that doesn't really need a planning tool because it can be done just as easily on the unit, people who need a legitimate tool are made to suffer? More marketing BS. GeoTagging is done post trip, no planning needed. GeoCaching may have changed since inception, but last I heard it was still an activity that was more spontaneous and didn't need a lot of planning. Most iTunes users, myself included, don't use iTunes for planning anymore...... we just hit the "Genius" button.