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some random questions about running with a mask

Former Member
Former Member

Hi everyone,

as many of us are, I'm running with a mask on these days.  This causes me to get my heart rate up quicker, because I can barely breathe most of the time.  I need to take more breaks!

When I take breaks, I pause my run, and then walk, and then hit resume when ready to start back up.  I'm not sure how this is affecting the level setting the watch performs.  I use an external HR monitor, so that's pretty accurate.  But based on the suggestions of the phone software, it's set my levels so a heart rate of 168 is still in the green, when I am seriously dying if I keep that up long!

Questions:

1. should I not be 'pausing' my run when i need to take walk breaks?  Is the watch thinking I'm more superman than reality demonstrates?

2. it's also setting recovery heartrate at ~124, so not sure if that's getting skewed as well by me not using the watch effectively.

3. is my fitness productivity level also being impacted by the watch thinking I can run at 165 heart rate and still be in the green?  So that when it sees me only in the 150s it thinks i'm slacking off?

Sorry if these are silly questions.  Thanks!

Barrett

  • Unless it's a law order where you're from, run by yourself and there'll be no need for a mask.  What is your max HR?  If 168 is in the green for you, this is based on your HR zones.  Running with or without the mask won't change that. 

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    0 Former Member

    Agree with Tess.  I run every day and I've never seen anyone running with a mask.  I can't imagine how difficult that would be.  Regardless, it shouldn't change your zones.  

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    0 Former Member in reply to Former Member

    Depends where you live, I suppose.  In Boston, if you are huffing and puffing on people you pass on the sidewalks, you're not part of the solution.  But thanks - good to know stopping and starting won't impact my zones!

  • Don't huff and puff. Run at the fastest pace at which you could hold a conversation or breathe comfortably through your nose. If you're wearing a mask, this will be very slow.

    1. There are arguments for and against pausing. If you only care about your actual running pace or distance, pausing could be the way to go because the summary data for a workout and in trend charts will accurately reflect just that. OTOH, you're discarding all the work you did while walking. Your total distance and calories will be lower, as may be your training load.

    I prefer to record everything and use manual laps (disabling Auto Lap) to denote meaningful sections. You can set up a simple interval workout that includes a warm-up and then alternates between running and recovery when you press Back/Lap. Garmin Connect will break these out as it would regular laps, and it will provide you with a summary of run time, run distance, and run pace. However, I believe you can only see these on a per workout basis, not in any trend charts. Other software may differ, e.g., if you sync your data somewhere else.

    2. Your zones will only be dynamically adjusted if you base them off of max HR, heart rate reserve (HRR), or lactate threshold HR (LTHR), and one of the underlying metrics (resting HR, max HR, or LTHR) is set to Auto Detect and changes. Pausing or not pausing will not change zones. Wearing a mask should not have an effect on your zones, either, since the only thing that should have changed is your pace at a given HR.

    3. Maybe. Training Status considers how your Training Load and VO2max are changing with respect to each other. If your zones or max HR are too high, it may think you're going too easy, though technically it should consider your history. However, going from running without a mask to running with a mask has likely demolished your VO2max estimate, because you will either have slowed down drastically to maintain the same HR or have maintained the same pace and seen your HR blow up.

    It sounds like you're skeptical of your current HR zones, and you should be. I believe that the watch's default is to derive your max HR from the 220 minus age formula, which is notoriously unsuited to the purpose, and use standard percentages for the zones. Whereas, there are measurable references you could be using instead. Ideally, you would do most of your running below your aerobic threshold, which would define the top of Z2. If you're a more advanced runner, you'll do some speed work near or above your anaerobic threshold (or lactate threshold), which is often the bottom of Z4 or Z5, depending on whose system you prefer. See also this post for tips on setting your max and LTHR.

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    0 Former Member in reply to Roedema

    Roedema - thank you soooo much for your thoughtful and informative post!  You've given me some great things to think about!  I really appreciate it!

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    When it comes to running with a cloth face mask, there are a few key factors to consider. Firstly, it's important to choose a cloth face mask that allows for adequate airflow and doesn't impede your breathing while exerting yourself. Look for masks specifically designed for physical activity or ones made of breathable materials like cotton or moisture-wicking fabric. Additionally, ensure a snug fit that covers your nose and mouth properly. While wearing a cloth face mask during running can feel uncomfortable initially, gradually increase your running intensity and duration while wearing it to adapt. If you experience dizziness, shortness of breath, or any other concerning symptoms, it's crucial to stop and remove the mask immediately. Lastly, remember to maintain a safe distance from others and follow local guidelines to prioritize both your health and the well-being of those around you.