Forerunner 165 Series - Recent Threads

Altitude data is wrong all the time.

jddevoe — Sun, 08 Nov 2026 19:21:51 GMT

Is there any fix for this?

Looking for Forerunner 165 firmware Prior to 28.05 (update.gsp file)

7898494 — Sat, 18 Jul 2026 14:54:26 GMT

Hi I’m looking to downgrade my Forerunner 165 to a version prior to Software Update 28.05, due to issues I’ve run into after updating. If anyone has a copy of an earlier update.gsp file (ideally something stable pre-28.05, e.g. 27.10 or 27.09) saved locally from a previous Garmin Express sync, would you mind sharing a link (Drive/OneDrive/Mega, whatever works)?

For context: if you’ve ever updated your 165 via Garmin Express on a PC, there’s a good chance the installer cached the old firmware file locally before overwriting it — even a copy from your own machine would help a lot.

Also happy to hear if anyone has already tried downgrading past 28.05 successfully and can confirm which file names/versions worked for the 165 specifically (update.gsp + force.tmp in the GARMIN folder, from what I understand).

Thanks in advance!

RE: Looking for Forerunner 165 firmware Prior to 28.05 (update.gsp file)

Jacquers — Sat, 07 Nov 2026 03:40:41 GMT

Yes, oops, that was for the 965, sorry.

FR165 006-B4432-10

FR165M 006-B4433-10

The forum doesn't like pasting links, it thinks it's spam. You can substitute the part numbers and guids.

27.10

165 407575a7-2093-4f0d-bd69-d10b266e7f34
165M d75fb0d9-4a8b-485e-8ea6-393a71f3c1f7

28.05

165 f84738ed-e0e4-4bad-914e-7cc23d7b13c9
165M 2f58aff5-01f9-43a2-881c-afb0929bc649

29.05

165 31df560f-ce1e-46b1-af9b-d290df7b0804
165M f5d3a9d0-912d-4b3e-82a2-c3f4959b39db

RE: Looking for Forerunner 165 firmware Prior to 28.05 (update.gsp file)

3539958 — Fri, 06 Nov 2026 20:52:23 GMT

Hi
Are these firmware files for FR165 or FR165Muisc ?

006-B4315-10 this ID looks like Forerunner 965.

Thanks.

RE: Training status disappeared after firmware update

Garmin - KS — Thu, 05 Nov 2026 19:56:25 GMT

Thanks for the post, mtbnutcase! The Forerunner 165 does not support the Training Status feature. For a list of compatible devices, visit What Is Garmin Training Status?

If you owned a different device that is compatible with Training Status before the end of July, then that is likely where your Training Status data was coming from.

Training status disappeared after firmware update

mtbnutcase — Wed, 04 Nov 2026 09:45:22 GMT

Hi - after a firmware update at the end of July my Forerunner 165 has refused to show my training status. I have recorded numerous runs since then but nothing so far has brought the feature back to life for me ?

Am i missing something obvious ? It was giving me the data and I am doing the same amount of activities as when it was providing training status updates.

It was working fine for me on my FR165 so I find it odd it disappeared?

Problem with Xiaomi Buds - Disconnect after 10-15 seconds of playing

9387790 — Mon, 02 Nov 2026 18:58:48 GMT

I have Forerunner 165 Music with latest fw 29.05.

I have problems with Xiaomi Buds 6 Play (2 of them), when you play something, after 10 seconds, the buds disconnect and connect again.

Tried with fake Sony wh-1000xm4 and it works perfectly...

Also tried every configuration I found in Xiaomi Earbuds app but the problem remains.

Is Garmin support reading this forum or only other users??

Thanks for any help you can provide!

RE: Looking for Forerunner 165 firmware Prior to 28.05 (update.gsp file)

Jacquers — Sat, 31 Oct 2026 03:21:27 GMT

27.09 download.garmin.com/.../gupdate.gsp

28.05 download.garmin.com/.../gupdate.gsp

RE: Looking for Forerunner 165 firmware Prior to 28.05 (update.gsp file)

1389465 — Sat, 31 Oct 2026 00:37:06 GMT

Alguém tem os arquivos da versão anterior a 29.05 .a 28.05, o meu apresentou tela preta.

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RE: Morning Report incomplete on event days

Thomas Sauer — Mon, 26 Oct 2026 06:35:20 GMT

again yesteday on DD Marathon, 25.10., sequence on clock:

1. ready for moring report y/n

2. event day (time, wheater etc)

3. Day is yours

4. Clock

You can simply tery it out be create an event, i have no time in the morning to create screenshots or vidies. Thanks, Thomas

Morning Report incomplete on event days

Thomas Sauer — Tue, 06 Oct 2026 07:30:24 GMT

Always the same story on event days: the morning report starts with event info and than no more data (no sleepscore, HFV ...)

Please fix this software bug. May also effect other Garmin devices.

My software 29.05, Forerunner165.

Thanks, Thomas

Loss of ABC functions {altimeter, barometer, compas} after automatic update

9574013 — Sun, 06 Sep 2026 20:18:07 GMT

Hello, today the 6 th of september 2026 an automatic update occured on my Garmin forerunner 165 that I have been using for 1 year.

Since this update: the ABC functions (altimeter, barometer, compass) are no longer available and in the system menu, it is no longer possible to access the altimeter and barometer settings.

How is that possible? The use of these functions was the reason why I elected to buy this watch. If the functions are removed by Garmin is it legal? Of course not because they can not change the capabilities of a product after they sell it.

So GARMIN please advise me how I can return my watch to have a refund or how I can cancel your update and recover the capablities of the watch that I purshased 1 year ago.

RE: Loss of ABC functions {altimeter, barometer, compas} after automatic update

gxgene1 — Sun, 25 Oct 2026 03:29:18 GMT

9574013 2952629

https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/running-multisport/f/forerunner-165-series/429582/update-no-more-step-tracking-sleep-and-inconsistent-heart-rate?pifragment-1279=8#pifragment-1279=9

You might check out the link above and see if it's relevant to your situation. The limewire referenced link doesn't work, the one by Jacquers does. It looks like the post is in reference to the music version.

RE: Versão 27.09 do software

1389465 — Fri, 23 Oct 2026 13:31:03 GMT

Ao atualizar o software automático em 15/10/2026 pela manhã o garmin forerunner 165 apresentou travamento e em seguida tela escura, apesar da tela escura todas as funções e medições aparentemente operando sem anormalidade.

Versão 27.09 do software

6488073 — Fri, 30 Jan 2026 16:41:58 GMT

I've never had a problem with a Garmin 165 Music before. However, this new version 27.09 is very bad. I lost all my data restoring the watch to factory settings, and it's still malfunctioning.

The gesture function on my watch always worked perfectly. Now, it's no longer accurate. It's very bad. Furthermore, the green light underneath the watch constantly comes on when it's not in use, which makes it seem like the battery is draining faster.

Please fix this as soon as possible or help me restore the watch to an older version where everything always worked.

Thank you, and I await your response.

RE: Loss of ABC functions {altimeter, barometer, compas} after automatic update

2952629 — Fri, 23 Oct 2026 12:24:06 GMT

I'm currently having the same issue with the update, unfortunately a systems settings reset didn't help, and reinstalling the update also didn't help revive the sensor.

Issu on Garmin Forerunner Gesture

5790944 — Fri, 23 Oct 2026 08:07:18 GMT

Hi, I have some issue on my watch.

My Garmin Forerunner 165 is brand new. I have turned off Gesture, Always-On Display (AOD), and Display through the Controls menu. I have also performed a factory reset.

The issue is when I leave the watch on a table, the screen turns on by itself whenever I pick up the watch or when the table vibrates, even though I do not touch the screen or press any buttons. However, when I wear the watch on my wrist, it functions normally.

Could you please confirm whether this is normal behaviour for the Garmin Forerunner 165? If it is not normal, what troubleshooting steps or warranty replacement options are available?

Thank you for your help.

Accounting for water temperature when calculating calories burned

9767322 — Thu, 22 Oct 2026 12:55:41 GMT

Forerunner 165 and all other swimming-capable watches:

Is it possible to adjust the calculation of calories burned—specifically by taking into account water temperature (and whether or not a wetsuit is being worn)?

Currently, your algorithms do not appear to factor in water temperature, which leads to an underestimation of calories burned.

Heart rate sensor switching off

tfidalgo — Mon, 19 Oct 2026 08:16:40 GMT

My son's FR 165 Heart rate sensor switches off, i think when it is charging and doesn't back on when put on the wrist.

RE: Garmin F 165 parou a tela apos atualizacao 29.05. me ajudem.

JohnfromPA — Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:03:48 GMT

Translation: My Garmin F 165 screen stopped working after the 29.05 update. Please help.

You might do better posting this in the Sports & Fitness area.  Forerunner-165-series

Garmin F 165 parou a tela apos atualizacao 29.05. me ajudem.

1812555 — Thu, 15 Oct 2026 17:41:24 GMT

Garmin F 165 parou a tela apos atualizacao 29.05. me ajudem.

Weather ring incomplete?

KansasMatthew — Thu, 15 Oct 2026 14:18:28 GMT

I don’t know why haven’t noticed this before:

The ring around the weather data field is incomplete. I understand why the steps ring is incomplete, because I haven’t met my goal yet. But why the weather ring?

I haven’t been able to find it in the manual.

RE: Weather ring incomplete?

Garmin - KS — Thu, 15 Oct 2026 19:56:37 GMT

Thanks for the post, KansasMatthew!

The weather ring on this watch face represents the chance of precipitation for the current day. As the forecasted chance of precipitation increases, more of the ring is filled. If there is a 0% chance of precipitation, the ring will appear unfilled, while a fully filled ring indicates a 100% chance of precipitation.

So what you're seeing is expected behavior for this watch face. 🙂

RE: Garmin Coach workweek sync still fail

Thomas Sauer — Thu, 15 Oct 2026 09:13:28 GMT

on clock: week1 (since weeks...)

on garmin connect ios/web: week 8 from 9

Garmin Coach workweek sync still fail

Thomas Sauer — Tue, 06 Oct 2026 07:33:48 GMT

fyi, even with latest SW 29.05 the sync Garmin coach training week clock vs Garmin Connect does not work.

The clock always gives work 0 or work1.

A long reported bug but even with latest 2 SW updates was not fixed. May effect other Garmin devices too.

Thanks, Thomas