https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/en-USTelligent Community 13https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/431706/fenix-8-amoled-51mm-disapeared-power-on-animation/2031563Fri, 15 May 2026 14:23:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:7afe66f8-f6af-48d5-afab-11f04c779546STRIDER.514Just finished with support. Thomas was helpful but overly frustrating experience. They are exchanging the device for a new one, I have to UPS the first fenix8 to them and they will be sending out a replacement. I will prob be back here with the same result if im forced to update to 21.39 from whatever version the replacement comes withhttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/435712/map-problem---can-t-see-speedmap-or-route/2031561Fri, 15 May 2026 14:21:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:a2863681-37ea-4683-b944-ce873f235476MarkZNothing?https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436333/heart-rate-inconsistency-during-first-10-mins-of-run-activity/2031556Fri, 15 May 2026 14:19:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:0817cdeb-e7eb-4cb2-a981-15c55f519037Garmin - DKThanks for the post RichardB ! Please see the following Support Center article which should help with getting the best optical HR accuracy: Garmin Watch Optical Heart Rate Accuracy Tipshttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436272/more-options-for-watch-face-data-field-please/2031534Fri, 15 May 2026 13:51:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:7a8dcae2-c059-451b-b1b1-b87726ee04c2Garmin - DKThanks for the post and feedback, 6206231 . Please submit it here so it can be reviewed and considered for possible future use: https://garmin.com/ideashttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436333/heart-rate-inconsistency-during-first-10-mins-of-run-activityFri, 15 May 2026 13:14:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:5fd1f61f-eb0c-42d2-bea2-4f6ffcae39caRichardBI went for a run during the week and when looking at the HR data afterwards in Connect I noticed something off with my HR data. As you can see in the screenshot below, there is a spike at the beginning of the activity, and then about 10mins into the run, it drops again. This was on an "easy" run so the HR data for the first 10 mins cannot be correct surely? What could be causing this as I have never seen this on any of my activities? Think I need to bring out the good old chest HR strap.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/436330/strength-workout-errorFri, 15 May 2026 12:58:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:51d48b53-27f3-4f51-8eee-5485f871bd7e8933661Was doing a strength workout and enterimg the reps and weight immediately after the set. However after sometime all the reps and weight are 0. Amd even thenorder is wrong.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/431706/fenix-8-amoled-51mm-disapeared-power-on-animation/2031513Fri, 15 May 2026 12:35:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:9f4f0868-8cbe-4b13-9985-7305496a61547085344Update on my tests. 1st fenix8 : don't know the outof the box firmware, direct to 21.39 : no triangle, no animation, no screen, screen comes back by triggering the flashlight. 1st fenix : firmware 15.32- > 20.24 -> 22.29 . triangle and screen back, still no animation, no screen problem. I receive the 2nd fenix 8 : base is 15.70 -> 20.24 -> 21.39 . triangle, animation and screen ok, but I had an unrequested shutdown... for instance once. there is a clear difference of screen brightness ans white balance on the new watch ( more light and more white, the 1st one is less bright and a little warm yellow ). after the 2nd watch was set up and working ( it is fully chargin for instance), I took the 1st watch and: from 22.29 Beta, Full reset config and data, then Force downgrade to 20.24, then back to autoupdate, install the 21.39. and the Watch is only not having the animation, so, animation is still not here, but at least, it's not in beta hence, ECG and Dive is present. ( between each firmware jump I reached the hidden menu ( 8 times the light button while being in device info menu ), and selected the Software reinstall ). that's it for now on my side... I don't know if I'll have other issues with the new one.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436318/glances-keep-changing-order-on-a-watch-costing-hundreds-in-version-twenty-six-of-the-firmware/2031512Fri, 15 May 2026 12:34:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:7dc5341f-2c0f-41d3-af38-e8465f58b98f8532528There has been historically issues with *Garmin Express* rearranging things on syncing (it does have this explicit facility but sometimes it's got a mind of its own, and there might some interaction between Express and Connect). A couple of recent updates claim to have addressed it. I've experienced this issue in the past but not very recently. GE release notes: Garmin Express v7.28.1 is available for PC today. If you would like to update to the latest version, please visit “About” within the Settings of the Express application and select “Check for Updates to Express.” This version includes the following changes: Addressed an issue with Edge x40 devices stuck in a boot loop state Previous Versions: 7.28.0 Removed the ability to edit the birthdate in the add device flow. Fixed an issue with the old map image file not being removed for map updates on SD cards. Addressed a crash that could occur when downloading a software update due to bad data being returned. Other minor bug fixes and improvements. 7.27.1 Fixed an issue with the Pin Lock banner not displaying. Fixed an issue with devices in Garmin mode not being detected. Fixed an issue with widgets being re-ordered after a sync. 7.27.0 Added support for the Rally 110/210 Fixed an issue with device software versions displaying incorrectly. Fixed an issue with Glances and Activity lists being moved or reset on devices after a sync with Garmin Connect.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436185/glances-lag-on-14-14/2031510Fri, 15 May 2026 12:26:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:f42e58fc-3a6d-4865-af94-b981ccd301aftrux[quote userid="1226990" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436185/glances-lag-on-14-14/2031443"]Yes, same issue here, takes about 2-3 seconds after button press to start showing glances. Garmin - please fix![/quote] I do not see any such delays on my I3 Solar, though I remember that after one of the very early firmware updates a year ago, I had them too. Reset to factory defaults fixed it, in that time.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/431706/fenix-8-amoled-51mm-disapeared-power-on-animation/2031509Fri, 15 May 2026 12:26:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:dbab8be0-0b5f-42c4-b516-1b57076401dcSTRIDER.514Same issue. Unboxed my fenix8 Amoled yesterday, all was great until it prompted me to install an update. After the update, fenix boot screen gone, blue triangle gone, black screen no haptics for what seems like 10s of minutes. screen finally appears, and on subsequent restarts, black screen takes 10 minutes to recover. This is a terrible user experience. -Former 265 owner (flawless watch for me for 2 years)https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436187/mapas/2031508Fri, 15 May 2026 12:24:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:f3b28526-3e16-4a34-a868-23a2944aa371trux[quote userid="2352766" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436187/mapas"]is there any possibility of including maps in the watch[/quote] There are some 3rd party apps with maps for Instinct 3, in the Connect IQ storehttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436318/glances-keep-changing-order-on-a-watch-costing-hundreds-in-version-twenty-six-of-the-firmwareFri, 15 May 2026 11:57:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:96cdc195-6f15-4941-a75b-441e1a0428f3RinseRepeatit is almost comical how messed up and broken the 7 series is compare to the 6 series except I am not laughing being stuck with this pile of bugs and broken features every day almost every damn "feature" has some kind of bug on this watch, backlight, weather, sensor connections, everything now why do the glances keep getting their order reset after I change and save them? I suspect it has to do with a conflict between the watch as source for settings vs something in the phone app and they are fighting it out Did Garmin fire all their best developers after 2020? is there just one developer that moves from watch to watch and is now just working on the newer 70/170 series?https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436314/strange-icon-on-f7x-not-found-anywhere/2031504Fri, 15 May 2026 11:56:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e5d037e9-b7fe-4287-adf8-83fa3fe4ef23runnyThanks, I have tryed to find the icon meaning on the internet but no chance. Just curious, did you find the meaning somewhere or it's your intuition? BTW, it should be instantaneous pace, not average, for that step. thanks runnyhttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/436255/definitely-not-waterproof/2031500Fri, 15 May 2026 10:52:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:99751c00-cfcf-4587-adba-be6cb84520ff2044529Even Apple Watch can lose water resistance over time if continuously exposed to soap. Apparently the adhesives dissolves with soap and shampoo. So if showering, take it off..https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436314/strange-icon-on-f7x-not-found-anywhere/2031498Fri, 15 May 2026 10:23:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:7c72e9ca-8a40-44bf-9815-1f0ff8544c29truxThat's a symbol of the Pace (speed) gauge when using a Workout. The gauge self is at the top half, near the bezel (see the colored sections), and it shows you how fast you are in comparison to the workout goal.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436308/the-maximum-number-of-workouts-has-been-reached-7-pro/2031495Fri, 15 May 2026 10:11:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:b271c6f3-6dcb-4387-bfe8-4b59f4667248truxMost watch models allow maximally 25 unscheduled workouts, and Edge devices have the limit of 200. It includes any workouts already preloaded on the device. Scheduled workouts are not limited in this way. Why Am I Receiving a Workout Limit Exceeded Message on My Garmin Watch? | Garmin Customer Support How to Send Workouts to a Garmin Device | Garmin Customer Supporthttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-7-series/436314/strange-icon-on-f7x-not-found-anywhereFri, 15 May 2026 10:10:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:fe61005c-0347-423f-9569-a269e52d4afarunnyHi all, anybody knows what is this icon? It's appearing during a run (in this moment during a walk in the activity): Thanks!https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/436187/mapas/2031490Fri, 15 May 2026 09:34:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:cbbaf05e-6fa8-4163-a1a1-e0a7091aedaeJacquersGarmin won't do that. They want you to buy a more expensive watch. The watch might also be too slow for maps and not have enough memory.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/436255/definitely-not-waterproof/2031488Fri, 15 May 2026 09:16:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:33ec4e89-8f90-4bbe-927b-234c265a60d03908394Di sicuro un'unità difettata, non avrai problemi con la sostituzionehttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-8-series/436255/definitely-not-waterproof/2031486Fri, 15 May 2026 09:02:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e7e6b573-d6fd-4204-af41-259e03ba5b7eAttilaWell yep, then button calibration won't help you for sure! That sucks.