Disabling sounds/beeps system wide not possible

On the Enduro 3, which lacks the Fenix 8´s speaker, disabling the beeps completely is not possible. You can enable and disable the sounds for buttons systemwide and the vibrations system wide, but cannot do the same the sounds system wide. You can enable or disable sounds for smart notifications, sure, but not for fitness notifications like move alerts and system alerts like phone disconnect alert, even according to the official manual.(1)

 Quite a strange decision. Now, I have disabled most of system and fitness notifications completely and thinking about going back to my older forerunner. Not being able to disable all sounds and beeps is not only annoying for me as a teacher in front of classes, but also distracting during their lessons and a bad example as I forbid using/reacting to phones and wearables in the classroom. 

(1) https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-7AD1A592-9044-4D84-9688-7B5209F85BFF/EN-GB/GUID-330FB806-53B1-4BAB-8B90-35590535C872.html 

  • That is not a bug, it works as intended according to Garmin official Enduro 3 manual which is stating what Garmin-Laurie is writing.

  • That is not a bug, it works as intended according to Garmin official Enduro 3 manual which is stating what Garmin-Laurie is writing.

    Sorry, instead of bug, I should've said "apparently inexplicable design decision" or "unintended consequence."

    I still think this design decision can actually be explained by the fact that the ability to mute all beeps was moved to the volume function in Fenix 8, and since Enduro 3 does not have a volume function, that's why it doesn't have the ability to mute all beeps.

    IOW, I don't think anyone said: "Let's remove the ability to mute all beeps from Enduro 3." I think they said: "Let's allow the volume control to mute all beeps. Now that we've done that, we can remove the ability to disable beeps for alerts to streamline the settings." Again, the flaw with this design is that Enduro 3 doesn't have a volume control, but the ability to disable beeps for alerts was removed from Enduro 3.

    That's just my educated guess anyway, stemming from the premise that Fenix 8, Fenix E and Enduro 3 all probably share the same base firmware code.

    I could be wrong though. I think something like this makes more sense than the idea that Garmin just decided to prevent Enduro 3 from muting all beeps for absolutely no reason (especially when there's a way to do so on Fenix 8.)

  • This is the absolutely the definition of a bug, it's called a regression, unintended removal of features the prior model's software base had. Proper regression tests, unit testing and other QA would solve this issue. Every single feature should be unit tested and if the unit test breaks, the next software release should not be released, that's how basic code development works.

  • Every single feature should be unit tested and if the unit test breaks, the next software release should not be released, that's how basic code development works.

    So true. There is a volunteer testers group for Garmin devices before they are released. We will never know if they already reported these bugs due being under an NDA. 

  • Not really an unintentional bug or regression. The KNEW that there is no such option in the new Enduro and bc of that left it intentionally out of the manual - why, I dunno... 

  • Not really an unintentional bug or regression. The KNEW that there is no such option in the new Enduro and bc of that left it intentionally out of the manual - why, I dunno... 

    Again, it's possible to imagine 2 scenarios here:

    1) Garmin decides to allow Fenix 8 to mute all sounds, but not Enduro 3 (bc they hate their customers). They *purposely* take action so that Enduro 3 will be unable to mute all sounds

    2) Garmin decides to move the "mute beeps for alerts" functionality to the volume control, in order to streamline settings. In the process of doing so, they remove the "mute beeps for alerts" for all devices (Fenix 8, Fenix E and Enduro 3), instead of just the devices which actually have a volume control (Fenix 8), bc they forgot to consider the case where some devices don't have a volume control.

    Which scenario is more likely?

    Again, imo (*) it's not the kind of bug you're thinking about, where they meant to do X but accidentally instead they did Y. It's a different class of bug, where Y was done on purpose without considering its effects in all cases. It's still a kind of mistake or error.

    (* I could be wrong)

    Does it matter though? The real question is whether Garmin is willing to change it.

    left it intentionally out of the manual

    Just bc the manual accurately describes the existing functionality does not mean that the existing functionality is what was intended.

  • Thank you for the correction. I'm an enthusiastic Garmin user, and it really bothers me that the development team doesn't take the time to fully fine-tune the watch before the official release. No offense, but some bugs are simply unacceptable – (products like Fenix, Enduro, etc.). Is your team really that small? If you don't have the capacity for testing in your team, hire me – I'm an IT guru who will fine-tune the watch for you! :)

  • just want to add another voice to the pile -- the beep issue is super annoying. please let us turn it off.

  • It is an annoying bug. Please see manual: www8.garmin.com/.../GUID-1ED91618-3587-4DDB-A54B-ACEAC8CA3FA8.html

    "The device also beeps or vibrates if audible tones are turned on (System Settings) ". Except the settings are missing.

  • OMG is there a fix yet? These  beeps are driving me nuts