https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/en-USTelligent Community 13https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/264080/surf-error-tide-information-request-failed/1965923Sat, 23 Aug 2025 16:17:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:9d25e7d7-f5d3-4c9a-a5d3-5c0793a0e65e7925240Same here! Not working since 2 weeks agohttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/264080/surf-error-tide-information-request-failed/1965691Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:30:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:deae1895-ca5c-43d6-90db-5051941ecb924338545same here....1 surf and 1 2ds. 3 days with this error! Garmin? Hello? Anybody home?!https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/264080/surf-error-tide-information-request-failed/1965689Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:28:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:9c8ff522-92f3-463a-9ee1-de82f827941f4338545same here...1 surf and 1 dshttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965608Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:15:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:7006fb56-2c29-4059-a5fe-a6202d2a874btrux[quote userid="2026426" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965533#1965533"] the mileage should not be longer[/quote] I meant that if the 3D distance option is enabled, it necessarily results in greater distance reported by the watch, than when only the default horizontal distance is used. In real world, the distance between two places is always greater if you include the 3D path with ascents and descents, than if it were on a completely flat surface.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965533Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:34:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:3b1cce99-6983-4c99-9d10-0523358ba9141432869Interesting, the mileage should not be longer. The description of GPS drift in the manual makes it seem like that probably the leading cause of the discrepancy. Thanks.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965511Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:03:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:4b26c026-dec0-44e7-92d7-143a640a538dtrux[quote userid="2026426" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965446#1965446"]I didn't have it enabled. I just found it, so I'll try that the next hike I take.[/quote] With the 3D option the distance will be even longer. If you post a link to one of your activities, we can probably tell you what's wrong. Since it is not the 3D option, it could be GPS drift while you rest. Using the auto-pause (an option in the activity menu), or pausing the activity manually while you rest, will eliminate the extra distance due to the GPS drift.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1965446Fri, 22 Aug 2025 15:11:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:a05aada0-4c04-491f-9cc9-be563ac1506a1432869I didn't have it enabled. I just found it, so I'll try that the next hike I take. I also see in my Connect app info on my hikes an option to link the hike to existing trail maps. I will have to see if I can do that link before I begin my next hike to see if that also helps. Those maps are much more accurate in terms of distance. Thanks for your suggestion.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikes/1964759Wed, 20 Aug 2025 22:03:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:92433a73-66c2-4336-8453-1ee19c6beb99truxDo you have the 3D distance option enabled? Could you post a link to the activity?https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/419787/why-is-my-instinct-solar-2-consistently-overestimating-distance-on-mountain-hikesWed, 20 Aug 2025 21:15:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:27cab4e6-4474-4280-b824-a8847e5281b71432869I have now done a handful of hikes with elevation (Utah and New Hampshire). My Instinct solar 2 constantly overestimates the mileage compared to the official maps.For example, a 6.1 mile hike should really be 5.2 miles and one that came in at 7.4 miles should really be about 6.4 miles. I am not going off trail, and it doesn't seem plausible that additional steps throw it off that much. The elevation gain seems pretty accurate with GPS knowing where I'm at and what trail I hiked. I did make sure that the GPS fully engaged these last two hikes. Thanks for any insights!https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/246148/instinct-surf-solar/1963753Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:02:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:6afa6088-b04c-49af-848a-7535812747e17889214The first time I used my watch for surfing, it died. Full battery depleted after a 1.30-hour session. I can't believe I spent money on this, and now when I call,l They say they can change it, but only if I am in the US; if not, I have to pay. I don´t know why I keep trying with Garmin. I used to have a forerunner that went crazy and started vibrating non-stop. PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE should be the name for this brand.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/246148/instinct-surf-solar/1963749Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:58:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:68afc5ff-c7f4-4e21-84a2-0e4b8af30db87889214Mi Instict solar lasted 1 session of 1.30hours that consumed the whole battery and now it dosen't work any more. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE HOW CAN YOU SAY IS FOR SURFING IF THE FIRST TIME YOU TAKE IT TO THE OCEAN IT DIEShttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/307302/sudden-battery-drain-on-instinct-solar/1962571Thu, 14 Aug 2025 21:56:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:42a7be12-950f-403c-828c-a70e1cc428328082307I had this happen to my Instinct 2 Solar Surf. Garmin said that you should only charge the watch with a very low power charger (not these 30W chargers) and for a max of 2 hours at a time. When I reported this, they connected to my garmin account stats (with my approval) as they can see the detailed USB battery charging history and can detect if the watch has been left charging overnight etc... In summary, use an ancient lo power USB charger and set an alarm to disconnect it after maybe 90 mins max if a full charge was required or less if only 50% discharged. They ended up replaing mine under guarantee as I hadn't been overcharging the watch but it was very interesting to be able use the garmin connect app to see the watch charging history for myself. If you buy a 2nd hand watch, you've no idea how it's been getting charged. They took a good while to check my charging history and I got th feeling they were looking at every single monthe since the watch was first registered to see my charging behaviour. Hope this helps shed some light on the subject!https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1961071Sat, 09 Aug 2025 19:13:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:81a2d15f-d3e3-4dab-a7bc-f02c32a7ff6fkochmansNot trying to pretend that I'm an expert, but looks like a bug on garmin's side.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1960832Fri, 08 Aug 2025 18:01:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:51d22958-30bb-446d-a9e1-4fc4820bd144ChrisBYes, where the Cuckmere Haven enters the sea is my local surf spot. Not sure why the co-ordinates are not working?https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1960756Fri, 08 Aug 2025 13:09:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:cb3895e4-1658-4729-a35c-621ec840ea66kochmansTwo things I need to clear first: I am no specialist on British Grid, so whatever I write here is just an educated conjecture based on my general experience with various coordinate systems. Without knowing what exactly you type into the garmin it is hard to tell where the problem is, if any. Anyway, the coordinates you provided seem to point to a point on the English Channel about 250 m south of Cuckmere Haven beach. Am I correct? I tried typing TV 51679 97450 into my garmin, and indeed, garmin seems to show this point much further west, somewhere in the Celtic Sea, in an area which actually falls outside of the British Grid coverage, and certainly outside the TV square. So this seems incorrect, i.e. garmin for some reason incorrectly interprets those coordinates, unless there's a flaw in my line of thinking.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1960738Fri, 08 Aug 2025 12:16:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:cfbe4d93-20e8-45a1-a885-72e7d221353fChrisBhttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1960737Fri, 08 Aug 2025 12:06:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:53aa54f5-4d8f-4f93-8dd7-a6089b3c9acfChrisBThank you so much! This has now worked for the beach I was attempting to input, but is not working for another location. Any idea why it fails to find tide location if using the same format?https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference/1960731Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:15:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:d9824ec0-00b2-4365-8fc9-9e32cf0ccb97kochmansI don't have the Instinct, but my Fenix 7 has similar functionality. When British Grid is selected the watch expects you to input coordinates with 5-digit precision, which gives 1-meter accuracy. Your example is 4-digit, which means that it has 10-meter accuracy. If you don't have more precise coordinates, then just enter 0 (zero) as the last digit. So in your example you need to enter "SS", then "20450" in the first field, and "06620" in the second. [quote userid="357062" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference"]it wants the SS ref and the BNG ref?[/quote] You misinterpret what is shown, which - I admit - might be confusing. It wants two letters, and then two sets of 5 digits. The "BNG" is there just to indicate that BNG is selected. [quote userid="357062" url="~/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-solar/417972/british-national-grid-reference"]If I change the setting to decimal degrees minutes, the number of digits to input is different to what comes up on Google searches?[/quote] First make sure that you have selected the correct format. It can be ddd.ddddd, ddd mm.mmm or ddd mm ss.s. These are not interchangeable, and you need to match this to whatever google shows. Then, again, there can be the matter of different precision. If garmin wants you to enter more digits than are provided in google coordinates, then just enter zeroes for the least significant digits.https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/418512/instinct-solar-eu-firmware-16-00-gupdate-gcd/1959852Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:13:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:bc587478-8d39-4611-a9c9-9ec583b507b0bluefishhttps://app.box.com/s/sfuq9ihurieiwfgwucom0mw23qdcmo1khttps://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-archive/f/instinct-solar/418512/instinct-solar-eu-firmware-16-00-gupdate-gcdTue, 05 Aug 2025 07:59:00 GMTa9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e51e7d8c-082f-48d5-92d5-7047ffd45a031462039Hi everyone, I'm looking for the firmware version 16.00 for the Garmin Instinct Solar (European model). The official download link for Instinct_1650Beta.zip is no longer available on Garmin’s servers. If anyone still has the original ZIP or the file "GUPDATE.GCD" from the "System_Backdate_1600" folder, I would really appreciate if you could share it. This version is known to fix random shutdown issues, which I am currently experiencing. Thanks in advance!shutdowncrash