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  • #16
    Originally posted by scottmeup View Post
    Is that information relevant to the issue at hand, or does it apply regardless of what a run is?
    As much as it would be nonsensical to want to add a bike to the activity after each run, it is still possible to do that through rule-based gear assignment automatically in Garmin Connect. However, I'd really like to know why Achim_Schraud would want to do that.

    Edges have a list of bikes to choose from you can program. You might have "Daily Commute", "MTB" and "Track Bike"
    Are they just profiles, or are they actual bikes? Analogously, track running and track shoes are logically different types.

    Garmin connect has a gear function that more or less lets you know when you should swap out equipment. Chain > 3000k for example would mean time to switch it out.
    Only if you choose to create a separate Gear entry of type Other for every replaceable component (tire, wheel, chain, etc.) and can be bothered to add every component used to an activity after the fact. Otherwise, a Gear entry of type Bike in Garmin Connect simply has a single overall lifespan attribute in terms of distance, even though its physical components should have different useful lifespans in reality.

    The bike selection made on the Edge isn't communicated to Garmin Connect. If your Edge is set to "MTB" GC doesn't necessarily update the gear usage for the that bike.
    “MTB” as a profile means nothing in terms of automatic gear assignment to an activity in Garmin Connect, other than applying any default gear rules set for Cycling across the board. You haven't shown or convinced me that you can specify on an Edge device that using the “MTB” profile means you're riding a Canyon Exceed CF SLX mountain bike as opposed to a Scott Voltage FR_710. As Roypw reported above, Garmin Connect does not recognise profiles set up on Edge devices (and, in fact, has no visibility or record of the Profile data table), just as Edge devices have no visibility of the Gear data table set up in the Garmin Connect service's database.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ASmugDill View Post
      Are they just profiles, or are they actual bikes? Analogously, track running and track shoes are logically different types.
      Typically a user names a profile to the bike they're using using whatever naming convention they feel comfortable with, so generally speaking: 1. They are profiles and 2. They are actual bikes. Users may choose to throw caution to the wind and do as they please, although this wouldn't make a lot of sense as each profile has a separate odometer.

      As I believe I mentioned
      Originally posted by scottmeup View Post
      Edges have a list of bikes to choose from you can program
      I'm no mechanic but from what I understand it's fairly difficult to program a bike out of thin air into the fabric of reality.

      Originally posted by ASmugDill View Post
      “MTB” as a profile means nothing in terms of automatic gear assignment to an activity in Garmin Connect, other than applying any default gear rules set for Cycling across the board. You haven't shown or convinced me that you can specify on an Edge device that using the “MTB” profile means you're riding a Canyon Exceed CF SLX mountain bike as opposed to a Scott Voltage
      U wot m8? Calm down. Have a snickers. I have no need, nor urge to convince you of something I haven't stated. You've failed to show or convince me that 1+1 = 2.73 * 10^409. How many people are going to fault you for that? (hint: none of the sane ones)

      Originally posted by ASmugDill View Post
      As Roypw reported above, Garmin Connect does not recognise profiles set up on Edge devices (and, in fact, has no visibility or record of the Profile data table), just as Edge devices have no visibility of the Gear data table set up in the Garmin Connect service's database.
      Yes, I believe that was the point I highlighted previously
      Originally posted by scottmeup View Post
      [*]The bike selection made on the Edge isn't communicated to Garmin Connect. If your Edge is set to "MTB" GC doesn't necessarily update the gear usage for that bike.
      I'm glad you seem to understand the issue Any questions about it I could perhaps help clear up?
      Looking forward to hearing from you soon
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      • #18
        Originally posted by scottmeup View Post
        Typically a user names a profile to the bike they're using using whatever naming convention they feel comfortable with, so generally speaking: 1. They are profiles and 2. They are actual bikes.
        It doesn't matter what the Edge user names a profile. Until you can specify a bike on an Edge device in the way it has to be specified to reference a row in the Gear data table in Garmin Connect, no, you're not specifying a bike for the purposes of assigning sporting gear to an activity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ASmugDill View Post
          It doesn't matter what the Edge user names a profile. Until you can specify a bike on an Edge device in the way it has to be specified to reference a row in the Gear data table in Garmin Connect, no, you're not specifying a bike for the purposes of assigning sporting gear to an activity.
          And the other points that call into question your ability to process reality as others understand it?

          Sorry if I mistakenly assumed that you understood the issue OP brought up. Maybe you could post a list of things that don't make sense to you and we'll send a man in a wood-panelled station wagon with a novelty sized butterfly net to your address ASAP to take care of the problem?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by scottmeup View Post
            Sorry if I mistakenly assumed that you understood the issue OP brought up.
            The OP brought up for discussion in this forum what he wants to do but cannot with his Edge device and Garmin Connect service. As a fellow forum member, I'm academically interested in discussion of why he cannot have what he wants with that combination, not how to get him what he wants or get Garmin (or anyone else) to see things his way.

            He has already taken the issue up with Garmin Customer Support to pursue an outcome, and has reported his progress/success or lack thereof. Discussion here will not change anything, but the logic of how the situation came to be is still sufficiently interesting for technically minded peers to consider.

            I'm sorry if you've mistaken this forum for a customer service channel or action/advocacy group.

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            • #21
              I think it's in your best interests that you get some help, dude :/ For those that care about you if nothing else.
              All the best.
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              • #22
                These guys are probably the best to speak to: https://www.lifeline.org.au/ or call 13 11 14 .
                Take care man, people are thinking about you
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Roypw View Post
                  yes one would think this would be built into Connect, however this POS software never ceases to amaze me as to how hard it is to use and how lacking it is in features. The most frustrating software I have used in many years, manufactures just don't put out junk like this these days

                  Very surprised there have been no answers to my post, guess it's not something Connect can do?
                  +1
                  Their devices are cool but their interface truly sucks. If they could pull their heads out and write a decent app they could dominate the space currently held by Strava, Map my Ride, etc.
                  And don't get me started on the Mobile app. It used to be borderline usable, but the latest upgrade made it MUCH less user-friendly.

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                  • #24
                    Did they change this yet?

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                    • #25
                      I'll just leave a comment here instead of asking all over again in a new thread... without the ability to associate gear with activity types, the gear tracking tool is a lot of manual work to use.

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                      • #26
                        You may want to try the new service built specifically for this problem: http://sync.bike . Its a device that pairs with your phone, and automatically updates your workout with the correct bike. No need to manually update your garmin entry.

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                        • #27
                          Another user who asks Garmim to automatically sync garmin bicycle profiles with Garmin Connect. It does not seem like a very difficult thing to do.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PorMausCaminho_CEO View Post
                            Another user who asks Garmim to automatically sync garmin bicycle profiles with Garmin Connect.
                            For what it's worth, I created two additional cycling profiles – named ‘MTB’ and ’Track Bike’ respectively – on my Forerunner 635 just now, and recorded a timed activity for each of those profiles. I didn't edit the activity records at all after syncing, but they were automatically named by Garmin Connect to match the names of the profiles:





                            So Garmin Connect is now actually accepting the name of the profile set up on the Garmin fitness/activity tracking device as a meaningless, freeform text piece of metadata. It won't do anything with it, but at least now the user can easily know what follow-up work he or she requires (only because he or she wants the records to look a particular way) by the name of the activity. That includes changing the gear assignment manually to match what he or she associates offline with the chosen profile on the Garmin device.

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