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MITCHELLYACHTING
11-18-2010, 01:46 AM
Hi - I live in Thailand and I am about to order an 800, but the maps that Garmin have do not include off road in Thailand. I looked at the Custom Maps on the Garmin site and that looks like it would sort me out with the use of Goggle Earth etc.

However, when I look at the compatability tab it does not show that the Edge 800 is compatible.

Does anybody know if you can use Custom Maps to upload to the 800?

Also is the format still KMZ or something different?

Thanks in advance.

NGHPMC
11-18-2010, 02:25 AM
According to DC Rainmaker it should work with Custom maps:

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/08/garmin-edge-800-in-depth-first-look.html

There is a section of this forum for Custom Maps:

https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204

You might find some Open Street Maps of your area here, but mostly for road use.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download#Asia

DODGYDD
11-18-2010, 02:53 AM
I've made some custom maps, it does work, not very good for covering a large area though. Ideal for putting a local trail centre trails on the map for instance.

thisguyrighthere
11-18-2010, 06:18 AM
I've made some custom maps, it does work, not very good for covering a large area though. Ideal for putting a local trail centre trails on the map for instance.

I tried doing a custom map of some trails in the area using the instructions found here (http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/onthetrail/custommaps#fragment-2) and made it all the way to the final step then realized it wasnt compatible withthe Edge 800. I had to use Garmin's Birdseye pay service if I wanted it to work.

Did you have to use Birdseye or did you get it to work with Google Earth? I't a neat feature and all but after spending all this money on the device, Citynav, and the monitors I just cant stand the idea of spending more to make a tiny custom map. At least not so soon.

DLEGLER
11-18-2010, 01:27 PM
Here is the official walkthrough for creating a custom map. They are indeed 100% compatible with the Edge 800

Creating Garmin Custom Maps in Five Easy Steps

Despite the growing breadth of maps designed specifically for outdoor handhelds, sometimes the best map for a specific activity is only available in printed form or as a PDF or JPG file. Running the latest beta software releases for Garmin Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota devices, using paper maps with Garmin outdoor handhelds is easier than ever with Garmin Custom Maps. This unique feature allows users to combine Garmin map drawing technology with georeferenced map images, effectively putting a paper map inside your Garmin GPS. Creating a Garmin Custom Map for your Colorado, Oregon, or Dakota device is easy with the following steps. However, please be responsible and only create a Garmin Custom Map from a map that is in the public domain, you hold the copyright in, or you have permission to use from the copyright holder.

Step 1: Save the map in JPG format
Begin with the map you wish to use on your Garmin device. If in printed form, scan the image at an appropriate resolution (Oregon & Colorado have a native solution of 155 dpi). Garmin Custom Maps require the map be saved in JPG format. Since many maps are available in PDF, they may require conversion using GIMP or other suitable program.

Step 2: Create an Image Overlay
Using Google Earth to georeference your map, begin by locating the approximate area on Earth where your Garmin Custom Map will be located. The closer the viewing window is to the location and coverage area of your JPG, the easier it will be to georeference. Once the location is set in Google Earth, use the menu to select “Add”, then select “Image Overlay”.

Step 3: Link the JPG
In the dialog box that follows, three important fields should be completed:
• Provide a meaningful Name.
• Set the Link field to the path of the source JPG to georeference.
• On the Location tab, Draw Order can be adjusted if desired. Draw order values less than 50 places the Garmin Custom Map below roads & trails, values 50 and greater places the Garmin Custom Map above most map features except points of interest & waypoints.

Step 4: Adjust the Boundaries
Before closing the New Image Overlay dialog box, you need to georeference the JPG. The most common way to do this is adjust the green marks to adjust the corners (a), edges (b), center (c), or rotation (d) of the JPG so it matches the satellite imagery beneath. It may be necessary to adjust the transparency (in the New Image Overlay dialog) to a level that allows adequate viewing of the JPG and imagery beneath. Once you are satisfied with the alignment of the source material, select “OK” on the New Image Overlay dialog box.

Step 5: Send to Garmin
To send the newly created Garmin Custom Map to your Colorado, Oregon, or Dakota it should be saved to the device. To do this, right click on your Garmin Custom Map in the “Places” section on the left-hand side. From the popup menu, select “Save Place As”. Use the following dialog box to save your Garmin Custom Map to your Garmin handheld device, placing the file in the /Garmin/CustomMaps/ directory. Be sure to save the file in the KMZ format. If preferred, the file can be saved to a microSD card, in a /Garmin/CustomMaps/ directory for use with Garmin handhelds.

GPS
Once saved to the device, the Garmin Custom Map will appear as part of the map. By default, Garmin Custom Maps are enabled on the device, but can be disabled under the Map Setup menu (select Map Information).

MITCHELLYACHTING
11-18-2010, 05:35 PM
Thanks to everyone that replied. Very helpful.

It looks like either Custom Maps of Birdseyeview will work for me.

I supose my concern is actually highlighted by DLEDLER as the official Garmin instructions only talk about Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota devices.

So looks like I buy myself a new toy.

DODGYDD
11-19-2010, 07:09 AM
I tried doing a custom map of some trails in the area using the instructions found here (http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/onthetrail/custommaps#fragment-2) and made it all the way to the final step then realized it wasnt compatible withthe Edge 800. I had to use Garmin's Birdseye pay service if I wanted it to work.

Did you have to use Birdseye or did you get it to work with Google Earth? I't a neat feature and all but after spending all this money on the device, Citynav, and the monitors I just cant stand the idea of spending more to make a tiny custom map. At least not so soon.

I used the same instructions in your link, works fine.

TREEDDDS
12-11-2010, 12:52 PM
Here is the official walkthrough for creating a custom map. They are indeed 100% compatible with the Edge 800

Creating Garmin Custom Maps in Five Easy Steps

Despite the growing breadth of maps designed specifically for outdoor handhelds, sometimes the best map for a specific activity is only available in printed form or as a PDF or JPG file. Running the latest beta software releases for Garmin Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota devices, using paper maps with Garmin outdoor handhelds is easier than ever with Garmin Custom Maps. This unique feature allows users to combine Garmin map drawing technology with georeferenced map images, effectively putting a paper map inside your Garmin GPS. Creating a Garmin Custom Map for your Colorado, Oregon, or Dakota device is easy with the following steps. However, please be responsible and only create a Garmin Custom Map from a map that is in the public domain, you hold the copyright in, or you have permission to use from the copyright holder.

Step 1: Save the map in JPG format
Begin with the map you wish to use on your Garmin device. If in printed form, scan the image at an appropriate resolution (Oregon & Colorado have a native solution of 155 dpi). Garmin Custom Maps require the map be saved in JPG format. Since many maps are available in PDF, they may require conversion using GIMP or other suitable program.

Step 2: Create an Image Overlay
Using Google Earth to georeference your map, begin by locating the approximate area on Earth where your Garmin Custom Map will be located. The closer the viewing window is to the location and coverage area of your JPG, the easier it will be to georeference. Once the location is set in Google Earth, use the menu to select “Add”, then select “Image Overlay”.

Step 3: Link the JPG
In the dialog box that follows, three important fields should be completed:
• Provide a meaningful Name.
• Set the Link field to the path of the source JPG to georeference.
• On the Location tab, Draw Order can be adjusted if desired. Draw order values less than 50 places the Garmin Custom Map below roads & trails, values 50 and greater places the Garmin Custom Map above most map features except points of interest & waypoints.

Step 4: Adjust the Boundaries
Before closing the New Image Overlay dialog box, you need to georeference the JPG. The most common way to do this is adjust the green marks to adjust the corners (a), edges (b), center (c), or rotation (d) of the JPG so it matches the satellite imagery beneath. It may be necessary to adjust the transparency (in the New Image Overlay dialog) to a level that allows adequate viewing of the JPG and imagery beneath. Once you are satisfied with the alignment of the source material, select “OK” on the New Image Overlay dialog box.

Step 5: Send to Garmin
To send the newly created Garmin Custom Map to your Colorado, Oregon, or Dakota it should be saved to the device. To do this, right click on your Garmin Custom Map in the “Places” section on the left-hand side. From the popup menu, select “Save Place As”. Use the following dialog box to save your Garmin Custom Map to your Garmin handheld device, placing the file in the /Garmin/CustomMaps/ directory. Be sure to save the file in the KMZ format. If preferred, the file can be saved to a microSD card, in a /Garmin/CustomMaps/ directory for use with Garmin handhelds.

GPS
Once saved to the device, the Garmin Custom Map will appear as part of the map. By default, Garmin Custom Maps are enabled on the device, but can be disabled under the Map Setup menu (select Map Information).
My Edge 800 has a 4GB micro SD card that I added on which I have City Navigator 2011. THere is no custommaps folder in the Garmin directory in the unit's internal memory, nor on my micro SD card. Where should I place the custom map I created in Google Earth?

CMENDERS
12-11-2010, 01:42 PM
Place it in the same folder that the City Navigator 2011 is in. Just be sure it has a different name and you will be fine.