Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

geraghtySB — Fri, 16 Feb 2024 19:38:25 GMT

I’m getting back into running after a 6 year break. I’ve done at least three different Jeff Galloway training plans and they ALL have the LONG RUN AS 0.5 mile RUN then 0.25 WALK. this is distance based so you can walk as slow as you need to recover. These run are as short as 2 miles in the 5k plans to as long as 14 miles in the Half Marathon plan.
I just start a Galloway plan on garmin and it has a long run WITHOUT interval. This against the Galloway philosophy. Use intervals 0.5/0.25 miles and repeat 4 or 14 times.
I used Jeff Galloway training on Runkeeper before in 2012 to 2016 and then moved to Garmin. This is my first plan on garmin. I hope the suggested runs improve.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

Skat3 — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 06:22:56 GMT

I find them to lead to risks of injury. The pacing and training load is way to heavy for novice runners. Some of the instructions are too vague to be pf any use. Especially the benchmark run telling you to run ”hard”. All out, threshold pace, maximum effort? Then it uses the same run to structure your workouts. I get some suggestions to do 45minute hill repeat sessions on day 3 of my 16 week program, even though I specifically state that my current fitness level is novice.

My suggestion for novice runners, or more older runners to steer clear of these and maybe find some mpre simple plan from training peaks.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

P2molvaer — Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:31 GMT

Thanks! It does not state if the pace is in miles or km, is the default 09:00/mi or 09:00/km?

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

1197454 — Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:53:36 GMT

I like Jeff's plan. It's designed to teach new skills, injury prevention and provides flexibility so you can get to know your body better. If you watch the training videos that are with the plan, it'll answers a lot of these questions.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

5243367 — Tue, 16 May 2023 20:55:30 GMT

I've been recommended this by a friend but it doesn't support some newer devices (mine being the forerunner 265). Would it be difficult to support them?

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

4976772 — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 04:27:34 GMT

1) It is issue as no timer is available for all Long Easy Run and Easy Run during the whole training (now and in future training ) so required his app ( data fields). 2) when race day, it does not work even using his app but his app work for training

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

5141717 — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:06:27 GMT

Hi,

No. As far as I can see it just gives these long runs. No guidence or anything.

What I did notice is that the goal tempo exercise will get longer, when you skip the long runs. The last goal tempo run was 10x times instead of the normal 6x times.

I was surprised by this. That is a nice feature. I simply don't always have the time to do these long runs.

Ad I guess the way you are supposed to do the long runs is like the goal tempo exercise. High intensity run followed by a walk. But I still don't understand why Garmin didn't program that.

Good luck with your running!!

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

ayoltderoos — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:55:19 GMT

Hi there,

Reading your comments here and just wanted to check something with you…

Got assigned my first Long Easy Run (in week 5 of my 10K training with Jeff), but it says nothing about Run-Walk-Run. Will this get specified in future runs, meaning I should just run this one in a continuous slow pace?

Thanks in advance!

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

5141717 — Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:39:57 GMT

I totally agree. I don't understand why this has not been implemented beter. I am training for the half marathon and discovered this today. Really annoyed. I would not recommend the Garmin forerunner 245

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

wildy71 — Sun, 04 Dec 2022 20:02:18 GMT

I’m constantly amazed at how horrible and janky Garmins software is. It’s like they’ve teleported the best programmers from 1998 to develop the UI and software. Hardware is solid, but the user experience is unacceptable. I’ve completely given up on using my Viviactive 4 for golf- it’s just impossibly unintuitive. They need to blow up the software and start again. They’ve been cobbling it together for too long.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

4976772 — Sat, 12 Nov 2022 14:35:58 GMT

bderusha

Great to know you make a new version to cover “Long Run” and explain the methodology of Jeff RunWalkRun. As Garmin only shows details of next 3 workouts, I mis-think to apply all RunWalkRun in all run workouts. Anyway, I tried new version in my week 7 Easy Long Run today (see above picture). It succeeded and worked smoothly. Many thanks!

The screen display not only shows Run and Walk with timers but also the remaining distance! It is very helpful and informative!

Please consider to add “pace” as 3rd information as to remind or more easy to keep constant speed during run.

One issue is loop in settings if further changes data field. After I set up new 1 layout display, if I amend data field and finally select your app again, it has to go to settings which show two options- Vibrate and Play tones but I am unable to finish the settings by press any buttons even “back” button. In some cases, I need to power off my 255 (or wait until it will return after certain time 😩).

I would thank again your contribution and support this wonderful app!👏

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

bderusha — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:42:45 GMT

Thank you. This is helpful. By default the data field will only turn on alerts during the " Run Walk Run - Long Run" workouts. But if you are doing a time goal training they don't seem to introduce those until much later. There is a new version of the data field available that *should* allow you to use the alerts with standard "Long Easy Run" workouts now too. You will need to turn it on in Settings > Advanced Settings > "Enable Run Walk Run with Long Easy Run workouts".

It is not the default because the training program wants people to run normally for the easy runs and then start to introduce specific Run Walk Run workouts later. But many people want to try out the alerts earlier than that, so it is now an option with that setting.

I hope it works for you! Let me know how it goes.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

4976772 — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 13:24:07 GMT

Bderush, Please find above my Long Easy Run week 7 of Jeff Galloway. I want to use your app for “Run segment or even whole workout.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

4976772 — Mon, 31 Oct 2022 00:55:40 GMT

Jeff Galloway Half Marathon training Week 5 Hong Kong - Long Easy Run

The program is warm up 5 minutes, run 17.7 km then cool down 5 minutes.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

bderusha — Sun, 30 Oct 2022 12:25:27 GMT

Currently the app looks at the text description of the workout phase and activates if it starts with "RunWalkRun". Which training distance are you doing? Could you share what the full text for the workout is?

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

4976772 — Sun, 30 Oct 2022 01:48:08 GMT

I use your app and create new layout (1 data field). However, my yesterday training- Long Easy Run. After warm up time and go to Run but it shows “Waiting for RunWalkRun” with time counting all the times . I tried to push back/lap button but still not work. What wrong I make

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

2961199 — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:15:30 GMT

You were really good.
some garmin choices are nonsense

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

8594972 — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:16:12 GMT

Thanks. I have downloaded it and will let you know how the data screen works out.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

Skdenes — Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:54:52 GMT

Hello,

was it solved during the years ?

Thanks

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

bderusha — Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:09:38 GMT

This bothered me so much that I wrote a custom data field that specifically works with the training plan. Feel free to check it out and let me know what you think.

apps.garmin.com/.../c4e3c16a-4ee3-4225-a907-2df94fb355cf

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

DavidChristensen1 — Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:24:15 GMT

I appreciate your response, and concur with your complaint of not being able to modify the workouts in the plan. I traditionally have used the run/walk alerts for years. I thought when it mentioned Jeff G. - it would actually conform to what he has taught. If I could modify the workout - I could put in the intervals. I tried running two watches - one with my standard run/walk and the Garmin with the workout. Too much concentration on electronics! I do like when the workout is over and I press resume, it picks up the run/walk alerts without skipping a beat.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

5687552 — Tue, 26 Apr 2022 01:03:38 GMT

After month of similar frustration I managed to find this:

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/fitness/setting-runwalk-feature/

It's maddening the "Jeff Galloway" training plans don't mention this much less set up something similar. I'm still fighting with it because it seems if any other alerts (like heart rate zone, cadence, etc...) are set then the walk/run alerts won't fire.

My biggest complain with the "training plans" in general is they allow zero customization like setting warm up times to better match the physical geography I run in and just manually created my own plan, so IDK if it will work with the training plan as automatically provided but if you manually set thing up you can get walk/run alerts

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

DavidChristensen1 — Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:10:46 GMT

My problem with the Jeff Galloway 1/2 marathon plan is its not run / walk! Take tomorrow’s workout - says to warm-up 10 minutes, run 6 miles, cool down 10 minutes. While doing the workout, it never gives alerts for my run/walk. I either need to have another app running to do the timing. Or skip the workout plan and let my watch do it as alerts. It should not be advertised as Jeff Galloway’s plan if it doesn’t do a run/walk.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

TeddiesHusband — Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:59:42 GMT

Thank you for your suggestion. I posted this question about the lack of run walk pace a couple of days ago and accidentally came across your suggestion. I sa that the question was raised a couple of years ago. I wished the issue had been dealt with the issue within the two years.

Common sense says that a run walk pace should be included. It is in other parts for the Galloway Training Program. I will try your suggestion today.

RE: Garmin Training Plans - Run Walk Run confusion

5083707 — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 04:08:25 GMT

I just started doing the 5K program and I looked up the table for my desired pace saw that according to the table in the description on the Garmin Connect App, I was to do 2 Mins Run and 1 Min Walk and I think that the acceleration and Glider drills will need to be incorporated as you transition from the walk and run. I am a rank beginner and I think each drill builds to a complete type workout. I watched the videos and read the stories and I will let you know how it goes.