Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

4743900 — Sun, 06 Aug 2023 07:54:12 GMT

My venu is really poor too. It only judges me to be awake when I get out of bed. Otherwise if I am simply using my phone in bed it still thinks I'm asleep.

I recently downloaded Pokémon sleep for my mobile phone and that does a better job tracking my sleep from next to my pillow

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

JobyL — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 02:22:37 GMT

Certainly my experience with the Fenix 6 pro makes me doubt the validity of its sleep analysis.

Many days I will watch TV from about 7pm, then have a shower and go to bed sometime before 10. Regularly Garmin will show the only session of deep sleep I had all night was 7:30 - 9:30pm.

I have set my normal sleep hours as 10pm - 6am.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

egoebelbecker — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 00:56:55 GMT

I have a feeling you're jumping to conclusions when you don't know what you're talking about.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

dbmata — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 00:09:32 GMT

I have a feeling there's a big tell as to why you're having this problem in that statement of yours. 🙂

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

egoebelbecker — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:58:26 GMT

That's the app I use. I have to disagree about it being a gold standard if I have to tell it when I go to bed.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

egoebelbecker — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:53:18 GMT

[quote userid="591517" url="~/apps-software/mobile-apps-web/f/garmin-connect-mobile-andriod/318566/why-is-sleep-tracking-still-so-terrible-will-garmin-ever-improve-it/1546552#1546552"]In order for the watch to properly recognize sleep you must be wearing it for at least two hours before bed. Is it possible you had the watch off to charge and it recognized your sleep after wearing it for the needed time?[/quote]

This isn't what happened, but are you saying that if I decided to charge the watch just before going to sleep, it would fail to properly track my sleep?

Wow. That's both amazing and completely unsurprising.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

JobyL — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:42:40 GMT

Certainly my experience with the Fenix 6 pro makes me doubt the validity of its sleep analysis.

Many days I will watch TV from about 7pm, then have a shower and go to bed sometime before 10. Regularly Garmin will show the only session of deep sleep I had all night was 7:30 - 9:30pm.

I have set my normal sleep hours as 10pm - 6am.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

firemaker69 — Tue, 27 Dec 2022 20:36:34 GMT

I worked shift as an engineer for 40 years. 30% of the population works shift to keep the world working.

Garmin does not even want to take a nap.

We know better.

Garmin is making money.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

8699309 — Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:56:38 GMT

Also you may want to check your user settings to make sure you have specified your normal sleep / wake time.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

8699309 — Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:49:07 GMT

In order for the watch to properly recognize sleep you must be wearing it for at least two hours before bed. Is it possible you had the watch off to charge and it recognized your sleep after wearing it for the needed time?

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

3649079 — Mon, 26 Dec 2022 12:37:58 GMT

I have a Venu 2 Plus and it's sleep tracking is great, with SpO2 all night and respiration, pretty excellent frankly, except for the first night when it did an update in the middle of the night, so think about making updates manual and see if that helps.

There can be issues possibly if you have tattoos making it harder to detect heart beat, and so get good readings.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

dbmata — Mon, 26 Dec 2022 03:12:59 GMT

I have the Fenix 7, descent g1, oura, a Samsung watch and frankly. Garmin is the gold standard for sleep scoring, even though that's the only thing the oura does.

There's an app called Garmin connect that lets you go through your data and make changes if needed. On the watches I have, awake time before morning gets counted in the sleep time. If it's not accurate, I go into the app and edit.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

trux — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:37:25 GMT

[quote userid="589314" url="~/apps-software/mobile-apps-web/f/garmin-connect-mobile-andriod/318566/why-is-sleep-tracking-still-so-terrible-will-garmin-ever-improve-it/1545067#1545067"]So the Instinct has better sleep tracking than the Fenix 6 Pro?[/quote]

I cannot tell you, since I never tried Fenix 6. However, the sleep analysis was already working without any problems with my old Instinct 1st gen, which used the remote analysis on the server, unlike my current Instinct 2 that has it already built in.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

egoebelbecker — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:31:34 GMT

So the Instinct has better sleep tracking than the Fenix 6 Pro?

Every review I can find has the Fenix 6 pro being more capable and yes, my watch is up to date.

RE: Why is sleep-tracking still so terrible? Will Garmin ever improve it?

trux — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:07:28 GMT

They do. My Instinct 2 displays the sleep analysis right after waking up (no processing in Garmin Connect), and has no problem detecting when I am waking in the middle of the night and marking it accordingly in the graph. And it does not matter whether it is at the beginning, at the end, or even multiple times: