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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://forums.garmin.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/apps-software/mobile-apps-web/f/garmin-connect-mobile-andriod/195255/can-no-longer-use-without-data-or-wifi</link><description>Hi All! 
 I don&amp;#39;t have a data plan on my phone. I used to simply pair the Vivoactive Hr with the Garmin Connect Mobile app. 
 I used to pair the device and then was able to look at the phone to see what I was doing on my activity. I could also work the</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 13</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 21:09:30 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="https://forums.garmin.com/apps-software/mobile-apps-web/f/garmin-connect-mobile-andriod/195255/can-no-longer-use-without-data-or-wifi" /><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/967984?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 21:09:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:a0ceba3f-8053-462f-86c9-756b7b8a8456</guid><dc:creator>PJB+</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;To make things worse, the Music Control widget suddenly stopped working. (I can pair the tracker, but Music Control is not working.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Garmin support person told me today that my phone&amp;#39;s OS (Android 5.1) &amp;nbsp;is &amp;quot;on the border&amp;nbsp;line&amp;quot; of being able to use Garmin software.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Huh? It had worked since I bought the tracker. Did they &amp;quot;improve&amp;quot; something, thus wreck it for many of us?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will we have to repeatedly buy new phones to use Garmin software as it &amp;quot;improves&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;As with computer operating systems &amp;amp; hardware, I understand a many years old phone or tracker, but the phone is the same age as the Vivoactive HR - only three years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am very much unhappy with this situation and with Garmin&amp;#39;s disrespect for its customers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/967854?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:08:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e0677302-b050-4810-97ce-6f2d0e04968b</guid><dc:creator>7600657</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is a true bummer and makes me rethink keeping the Garmin. I can imagine they may have done it to preserve battery but it&amp;#39;s one feature many will miss for sure.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/955731?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:22:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e11b23ee-791c-4dc1-8ab2-f7ef512a15a4</guid><dc:creator>PJB+</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;UPDATE-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A person from Garmin replied to my inquiry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ability to pair our trackers to Garmin Express Mobile without being on line wth either Data or WiFi has been removed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will miss being able to view my in-progress activity on the phone. I will also miss not being able to control my phone music from the tracker.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I get a data plan, I still won&amp;#39;t use the app and use all of my data time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, the only reason I chose this Garmin over a TomTom model i liked was for offline use of Express Mobile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Such Is Life!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/952356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:54:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:5ef2773e-859d-4114-a0f3-b423ae7bd97a</guid><dc:creator>PJB+</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Hotdogpartyausage for replying.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I probably explained poorly-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I am on WiFi, I can use the app &amp;amp; sync. It is when I am not on WiFi (or data) where the problem happens.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I used to be able to bluetooth the phone &amp;amp; tracker together and use the Garmin Connect Mobile app on the phone view what was happening on the tracker. (For example- Steps, speed, cadence, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I wanted to sync, I&amp;#39;d ether connect to wifi or hook the tracker to the computer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, the app won&amp;#39;t even open without being on wifi (or data). If it is on wifi, it will open &amp;amp; work. But, for example on a bike ride, there will be no wifi connection- so no using Garmin Connect anymore.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So it seems that the app is now usable on line only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did write to Garmin support today asking if this is a glitch or a new requirement, but I&amp;#39;ve never gotten a reply from a support e-mail in the past, so I may not get an answer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/952241?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:51:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:e39d651b-bc96-4a99-ae0e-20e41abef877</guid><dc:creator>hotdogpartysausage</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have my edge paired to a tablet that only uses wifi/bluetooth &amp;amp; have no problems syncing &amp;amp; viewing my data. What device are you trying to connect?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/952197?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:33:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:1eedafa2-0b84-48af-9c5d-8466431a5bb4</guid><dc:creator>PJB+</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank You Pshare for taking time to reply &amp;amp; explain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I used your suggestion of deleting the cache and trying again. It took about half an hour on good WiFi, but the running guy eventually went away.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It is too bad that we can no longer connect the device to the mobile app without WiFi or data. I used to enjoy looking at my phone for my progress while out on an activity (without data or wifi). Sometimes improvements aren&amp;#39;t really improvements after all. Such is life!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Thanks Again! I appreciate your advice and suggestions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Can No Longer Use Without Data or WiFi?</title><link>https://forums.garmin.com/thread/952101?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2019 10:27:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">a9571b57-dd57-479e-8763-8f8a603e40aa:d04ca0d1-e692-401f-a291-6984421c559b</guid><dc:creator>pshare</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The app will be pretty much useless without some sort of internet connection. I don&amp;#39;t have a data plan either and always connect by WiFi.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That runner is the equivalent of being in hourglass mode. When you uninstalled the app did you also delete your app data?&amp;nbsp;Make sure you have a strong WiFi connection. I imagine that if you have a lot of history to rebuild it could take a minute or so and could crawl with a slow connection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the runner doesn&amp;#39;t go away after a minute or so, I suggest you start by deleting the cache in your Android settings for the Connect app and try again keeping your screen on while the runner shows.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>